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Comments for Brain Off http://brainoff.com/weblog Mikel Maron :: Building Digital Technology for Our Planet Tue, 29 May 2012 13:25:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7.7 Comment on All I Want for OpenStreetMap is … Social and Attention by Improving the OpenStreetMap Profile Page for more Social Interaction :: High Earth Orbit http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773/comment-page-1#comment-224517 Tue, 29 May 2012 13:25:37 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1773#comment-224517 […] Mikel recently shared his own thoughts and wish list in terms of making OpenStreetMap more social. A public community of 500,000 members should feel pretty vibrant to the world. And there is no shortage of incredible engagement among the numerous mailing lists, wikis, projects, IRC chats, meet ups, conferences, and general social media interactions. […]

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Comment on Moabi and Big Important Challenges for the GeoWeb by mikel http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/04/24/1781/comment-page-1#comment-224486 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:48:25 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1781#comment-224486 Moabi currently has individual features identifiable by a unique and relatively cool URI, but they are behind a registration wall which prevents sharing. I’ve recommended that change, but there are some issues to work through with the various sources of data.

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Comment on Moabi and Big Important Challenges for the GeoWeb by mikel http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/04/24/1781/comment-page-1#comment-224485 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:46:53 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1781#comment-224485 John, good points. There’s a lot of data already there, but definitely so much more to bring in as well .. much of it not readily available, due to data sharing policies, or simply not existing with much precision. There is a lot of work to do on usability, and different user approaches. As you say, the mobile field worker is going to need an entirely different approach. Reputation is important, there are currently ratings on features themselves, which I think is actually social overkill; ratings or reputation on contributors is a bit more useful.

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Comment on Moabi and Big Important Challenges for the GeoWeb by Sean Gillies http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/04/24/1781/comment-page-1#comment-224484 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:11:10 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1781#comment-224484 I’m still very interested in making geographic features addressable and distributed. Putting everything in one database, whether Moabi or OSM or Geonames or Pleiades, has its limits, so we’ll need to figure out not only how to synchronize, but how to meaningfully reconcile our common features. And if we want to consider long spans of time, we’ll also need to figure out how to treat succession of features. For example: the Nereid Monument (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nereid_Monument) was once in Asia Minor, but is now in London. Same object, different location? Having fallen into ruin and since reconstructed, is it a different object?

“Cool URIs” seem to me to be a requirement for geographic features that would be social objects and things to be tagged or annotated on the web. Does Moabi have these? Is it taking a different approach?

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Comment on Moabi and Big Important Challenges for the GeoWeb by John Waugh http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/04/24/1781/comment-page-1#comment-224483 Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:40:17 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1781#comment-224483 Mikel, thanks for the review of Moabi. This is ambitious and could become a really important tool as it evolves. A lot of data is missing from the existing categories, which is not surprising given how new it is. What is more surprising is the relatively limited scope of the exercise so far. Given WRI’s involvement, I would have hoped to see some sort of link to poverty mapping for example – but perhaps the data is not there to support that. But what about conflict mapping? Could this be cross linked to an existing conflict map or could conflicts be added as a category for user input? Basic social and governance information is still missing, like the boundaries of the groupements, ethno-linguistic domains, population, etc. These are decidedly not beside the point for conservation planning in the DRC. Anyway, its early days, and the features used probably reflect an availability bias.

Much will depend also on how easy it is to add information. Will it be possible for field biologists to upload observations? Will it be possible to input and/or access data using apps on handheld devices?

It will be very interesting to consider how to weigh the relative value of contributed information. Will there be a reputation assigned to contributors based upon past contributions (like is seen at some help-desk sites)? Or a star or usefulness rating like Amazon’s product ratings and reviewer ratings? So that, when you ask for example for data on informal logging, you can ask that field observations be included, but only from observers with a “3” or above ranking? That sort of thing.

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Comment on All I Want for OpenStreetMap is … Social and Attention by All I want from OpenStreetMap is… « tom chance's blog http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773/comment-page-1#comment-224480 Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:29:01 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1773#comment-224480 […] Chapman and Mikel Maron have written a couple of interesting posts about improvements they’d like to see in […]

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Comment on All I Want for OpenStreetMap is … Social and Attention by Weekly OSM Summary #40 | J2ME GPS http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773/comment-page-1#comment-224470 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:48:43 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1773#comment-224470 […] I Want for OpenStreetMap is …“? Some thoughts and wishes from Mikel and Kate for […]

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Comment on All I Want for OpenStreetMap is … Social and Attention by OpenStreetMap Chile » Blog Archive » Resumen Semanal OSM #40 http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773/comment-page-1#comment-224469 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:43:28 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1773#comment-224469 […] lo que quiero para OpenStreetMap es…”? Algunos pensamientos y deseos de Mikel y Kate para […]

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Comment on All I Want for OpenStreetMap is … Social and Attention by Blog Beat #4: Why I’m fired up about OpenStreetMap | The Transparency and Accountability Initiative http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773/comment-page-1#comment-224448 Mon, 02 Apr 2012 21:47:58 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1773#comment-224448 […] Understanding the need for civic engagement surrounding open data underpins the important of allowing citizens new entry points for transparency and accountability.  For example, Development Seed, is putting forth a proposal for new contribution tools to OpenStreetMap that will enable citizens more avenues to input hyper-localized data as another member of our network of practice, Mikel Maron articles here. […]

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Comment on All I Want for OpenStreetMap is … Social and Attention by edbice http://brainoff.com/weblog/2012/03/30/1773/comment-page-1#comment-224442 Fri, 30 Mar 2012 18:40:52 +0000 http://brainoff.com/weblog/?p=1773#comment-224442 mikel, this is a great vision. while i know the goal of OSM is data – lines, points, polygons, and names – this sort of geo-driven messaging within a network might extend nicely to other projects that care about the place part of reputation and place driven queries. 🙂

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